This episode I describe how our ears and nervous system decode sound
waves and gravity to allow us to hear and make sense of sounds. I also
describe protocols for rapid learning of sound and other types of
information. I discuss sound localization, doppler effects (sound
motion), pitch perception and how we isolate sounds in noisy
environments. I also review the scientific findings on binaural beats
and white noise and how they can improve learning. Other topics and
protocols include tinnitus, sea sickness, ear movement, ear growth and
the science-supported ways we can all accelerate learning using "gap
effects".
-- Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast, where we discuss science and
science-based tools for everyday life. I'm Andrew Huberman and I'm a
professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of
Medicine. Today, we're going to talk all about hearing and balance and
how you can use your ability to hear specific things and your balance
system in order to learn anything faster. The auditory system, meaning
the hearing system, and your balance system, which is called the
vestibular system, interact with all the other systems of the brain
and body and, used properly, can allow you to learn information more
quickly, remember that information longer and with more ease and you
can also improve the way you can hear. You can improve your balance.
We're going to talk about tools for all of that. This is one area of
science, where we understand a lot about the cells and the mechanisms
in the ear and in the brain and so forth. So we're going to talk about
that a little bit, and then we're going to get directly into
protocols, meaning tools. We're also going to talk about ways in which
the auditory and balance system suffer. We're going to talk about
tinnitus, which is this ringing of the ears that, unfortunately, for
people that suffer from it, they really suffer. It's very intrusive
for them. We're going to talk about some treatments that can work in
some circumstances and some of the more recent emerging treatments
that I think many people aren't aware of. We're also going to talk
about this, what seems like kind of a weird fact, which is that 70% of
people, all people, make what are called otoacoustic emissions, their
ears actually make noises. Chances are your ears are making noises
right now, but you can't perceive them. And yet those can have an
influence on other people and animals in your environment. It's a
fascinating aspect of your biology. You're going to learn a lot about
how your biology and brain and ears and the so-called inner ear that's
associated with balance, you're going to learn a lot about how all
those work, you're going to learn a lot of neuroscience. I'll even
tell you what type of music to listen to. And if you listen to me, you
can leverage that in order to learn faster. Before we begin talking
about the science of hearing and balance and tools that leverage
hearing and balance for learning faster, I want to provide some
information about another way to learn much faster.
There's a paper that was published recently. This is a paper that was
published in Cell Reports, an excellent journal. It's a peer-reviewed
paper from a really excellent group, looking at skill-learning. Now,
previously, I've talked about how, in the attempt to learn skills, the
vital thing to do is to get lots of repetitions. You've heard of the
10,000 hours thing, you've heard of lots of different strategies for
learning faster, 80/20 rule and all that; the bottom line is you need
to generate many, many repetitions of something that you're trying to
learn. And the errors that you generate are also very important for
learning. It also turns out that taking rest within the learning
episode is very important. I want to be really clear what I'm
referring to here. In earlier episodes, I've discussed how when you're
trying to learn something it's beneficial, it's been shown in
scientific studies, that if you take a 20-minute shallow nap or you
simply do nothing after a period of learning, that it enhances the
rates of learning and the depth of learning, your ability to learn and
remember that information. What I'm about to describe are new data
that say that you actually should be injecting rest within the
learning episode. Now I'm not talking about going to sleep while
learning. This is the way that the study was done: the study involved,
having people learn sequences of numbers or keys on a piano. So let's
use the keys on a piano example. I'm not a musician, but I think I'll
get this correct. They asked people to practice a sequence of keys,
G-D-F-E-G; G-D-F-E-G; G-D-F-E-G. And they would practice that either
continually for a given amount of time, or they would just do that for
10 seconds, they would play G-D-F-E-G, G-D-F-E-G, G-D-F-E-G, G-D-F-E-G
for 10 seconds. And then they would take a 10-second pause or rest.
They would just space take a space or a period of time where they do
nothing for 10 seconds then they would go back to G-D-F-E-G, G-D-F-
E-G. So the two conditions, essentially, were to have people practice
continually, lots of repetitions, or to inject or insert these periods
of 10 seconds idle time where they're not doing anything, they're not
looking at their phone, they're not focusing on anything, they're just
letting their mind drift wherever it wants to go and they are not
touching the keys on the keyboard. What they found was that the rates
of learning, the skill acquisition and the retention of the skill was
significantly faster when they injected these short periods of rest,
these 10-second rest periods. And the rates of learning were, when I
say significantly faster, were much, much faster. I'll reveal what
that was in just a moment, but you might ask why would this work? Why
would it be that injecting these 10-second rest periods would enhance
rates of learning? What they called them was micro-offline gains
because they're taking their brain offline from the learning task for
a moment. Well, turns out the brain isn't going offline at all. You've
probably heard of the hippocampus, the area of the brain involved in
memory and the neocortex, the area of the brain that's involved in
processing sensory information. Well, it turns out that during these
brief periods of rest, these 10-second rest periods, the hippocampus
and the cortex are active in ways such that you get a 20 times repeat
of the G-D-F-E-G. It's a temporal compression, as they say. So
basically, the rehearsal continues while you rest, but at 20 times the
speed. So if you were normally getting just, let's just say five
repetitions of G-D-F-E-G, G-D-F-E-G, G-D-F-E-G per 10 seconds. Now you
multiply that times 20. In the rest periods, you've practiced it 100
times. Your brain has practiced it. We know this because they were
doing brain imaging, functional imaging of these people with brain
scanners while they were doing this. This is an absolutely staggering
effect and it's one that, believe it or not, has been hypothesized or
thought to exist for a very long time. This effect is called the
spacing effect. And it was actually first proposed by Ebbington in
1885. And since then, it's been demonstrated for a huge number of
different, what they call domains, in the cognitive domain. So for
learning languages, in the physical domain, so for learning skills
that involve a motor sequence. It's been demonstrated for a huge
number of different categories of learning. If you want to learn all
about the spacing effect and the categories of learning that it can
impact, there's a wonderful review article. I'll provide a link to it.
The title of the review article is parallels between spacing effects
during behavioral and cellular learning. What that review really does
is it ties the behavioral learning and the improvement of skill to the
underlying changes in neurons that can explain that learning. I should
mention that the paper that I'm referring to, the more recent paper
that injects these 10-second little micro-offline gains, rest periods
is the work of the laboratory of Leonard Cohen, not the musician,
Leonard Cohen. He passed away, he was not a neuroscientist; a
wonderful poet and musician, but not a neuroscientist. Again, the
paper was published in Cell Reports and we will provide a link to the
full paper as well. So the takeaway is if you're trying to learn
something, you need to get those reps in, but one way that you can get
20 times, the number of reps in is by injecting these little 10-second
periods of doing nothing. Again, during those rest periods, you really
don't want to attend to anything else, as much as possible. You could
close your eyes if you want, or you can just simply wait and then get
right back into generating repetitions. I find these papers that Cell
Reports and other journals have been publishing recently to be
fascinating because they're really helping us understand what are the
best protocols for learning anything. And they really leverage the
fact that the brain is willing to generate repetitions for us,
provided that we give it the rest that it needs. So inject rest
throughout the learning period. And if you can, based on the
scientific data, you would also want to take a 20-minute nap or a
20-minute decompress period where you're not doing anything after a
period of learning. I think those could both synergize in order to
enhance learning even further, although that hasn't been looked at
yet. Before we begin talking about hearing and balance, I just want to
mention that this podcast is separate from my teaching and research
roles at Stanford.
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Can you hear me? Okay, well, if you can hear me, that's amazing
because what it means is that my voice is causing little tiny changes
in the airwaves wherever you happen to be. And that your ears and
whatever's contained in those ears and in your brain can take those
sound waves and make sense of them. And that is an absolutely
fantastic and staggering feat of biology and yet we understand a lot
about how that process works. So I'm going to teach it to you now in
simple terms over the next few minutes. So what we call ears have a
technical name. That technical name is oracles, but more often they're
called pinna, the pinnas, P-I-N-N-A, pinna. And the pinnas of your
ears, this outer part that is made of cartilage and stuff is arranged
such that it can capture sound in the best way for your head size.
We're going to talk about ear size also, 'cause it turns out that your
ears change size across the lifespan and that how big your ears are or
rather how fast your ears are changing size is a pretty good
indication of how fast you're aging. So we'll get to that in a few
minutes, but I want to talk about these things that we call ears and
some of the stuff contained within them that allow us to hear. So the
shape of these ears that we have is such that it amplifies high-
frequency sounds. High frequency sounds, as the name suggests, is the
squeakier stuff. So low frequency sound, Costello snoring in the
background that's a low frequency sound or high frequency sound, okay?
So we have low frequency sounds and high frequency sounds and
everything in between. Now those sound waves get captured by our ears.
And those sound waves, for those of you that don't maybe fully
conceptualize sound waves, are literally just fluctuations or shifts
in the way that air is moving toward your ear and through space. In
the same way that water can have waves, air can have waves. So it's
reverberation of air. Those come in through your ears and you have
what's called your eardrum. And on the inside of your eardrum, there's
a little bony thing that shaped like a little hammer. So attached to
that eardrum, which can move back and forth like a drum, it's a little
membrane, you got this hammer attached to it. And that hammer has
three parts. For those of you that want to know, those three parts are
called malleus, incus and stapes. But basically, you can just think
about it as a hammer. So you've got this eardrum and then a hammer.
And then that hammer has to hammer on something. And what it does is
it hammers on a little coiled piece of tissue that we call the
cochlea, sometimes called the cochlea, depending on where somebody
lives in the country. So, typically, in the Midwest, on the East
Coast, they call them coh-chleah. And on the West Coast, we call them
caw-cochlea, same thing. So this snail-shaped structure in your inner
ear is where sound gets converted into electrical signals that the
brain can understand. But I want to just bring your attention to that
little hammer because that little hammer is really, really cool. What
it means is that sound waves come in through your ears, that's what's
happening right now, that eardrum that you have, it's like the top of
a drum. It's like a membrane, or it can move back and forth. It's not
super rigid and it moves that little hammer. And then the hammer goes,
doom-doom-doom-doom and hits this coil-shaped thing that we're calling
the cochlea. Now the cochlea, at one end, is more rigid than the
other. So one part can move really easily and the other part doesn't
move very easily. And that turns out to be very important for decoding
or separating sounds that are low frequency like Costello's snoring
and sounds that are of high frequency, like a shriek or a shrill. And
that's because within that little coil thing, we call the cochlea, you
have all these tiny little what are called hair cells. Now they look
like hairs, but they're not at all related to the hairs on your head
or elsewhere on your body. They're just shaped like hair, so we call
them hair cells. Those hair cells, if they move, send signals into the
brain that a particular sound is in our environment. And if those hair
cells don't move, it means that particular sound is not in our
environment. So just to give you the mental picture of this, sound
waves are coming in, because there's stuff out there, making noises
like my voice; it's changing the patterns of air around you in very,
very subtle ways; that information is getting funneled into your ears
because your pinnas are shaped in a particular way. The eardrum then
moves this little hammer and the hammer bangs on this little snail-
shaped thing. And because that snail-shaped thing, at one end, is very
rigid, it doesn't want to move and at the other end, it's very
flexible, it can separate out high-frequency and low-frequency sounds.
And the fact that this thing in your inner ear that we call the
cochlea is coiled, is actually really important to understand because
along its length, it varies in how rigid or flexible it is, I already
mentioned that before and at the base, it's very rigid and that's
where the hair cells, if they move, will make high-frequency sounds,
and at the top, what's called the apex, it's very flexible and it's
more like a bass drum. So basically what happens is sound waves come
into your ears and then at one end of this thing that we call the
cochlea, at the top, it's essentially encoding or only responding to
sounds that are like, doom-doom-doom-doom. Whereas, at the bottom, it
responds to high-frequency sounds like a cymbal, [clanging]. And
everywhere in between, we have other frequencies, medium frequencies.
Now this should stagger your mind. If it doesn't already, it should.
Because what this means is that everything that's happening around us,
whether or not it's music or voices or crying or screaming or
screaming of delight from small children who are excited, 'cause
they're playing or 'cause they get cake; all of that is being broken
down into its component parts and then your brain is making sense of
what it means. These things that I've been talking about, like the
pinna of your ears and this little hammer and the cochlea, that's all
purely mechanical. It has no mind of its own. It's just breaking
things down into high frequencies, medium frequencies and low
frequencies. And if you don't understand sound frequency, it's really
simple to understand, just imagine ripples on a pond. And if those
ripples are very close together, that's high frequency; they occur at
high frequency. If those ripples are further apart, it's low
frequency. And obviously, medium frequency is in between. So just like
you can have waves in water, you can have waves in air. So that's
really how it works. Now we are all familiar with light and how, if
you take a prism and put it in front of light, it will split that
light into its different wavelengths, its different colors, red,
green, blue, et cetera. So like the Pink Floyd "Dark Side of the Moon"
album, I think, has a prism and it's converting white light into all
the colors, all the wavelengths that are contained in white light.
Your cochlea, essentially, acts as a prism. It takes all the sound in
your environment and it splits up those sounds into different
frequencies. So you can think of the cochlea of your ear, sort of like
a prism and then the brain takes that information and puts it back
together and makes sense of it. So those hair cells in each of your
two cochlea, because you have two ears, you also have two cochlea,
send little wires, what we call axons that convey their patterns of
activity into the brain.
And there are a number of different stations within the brain that
information arrives at before it gets up to the parts of your brain,
where you are consciously aware. And because some of you have asked
for more names and nomenclature, I'll give that to you. If you don't
want a lot of detailed names, you can just ignore what I'm about to
say. But, basically, the cochlea send information to what's called the
spiral ganglion. A ganglion, by the way, if you're going to learn any
neuroscience, just know that anytime you hear ganglion, a ganglion is
just a clump, so it means a bunch of neurons. So a clump of cells. So
the spiral ganglion is a bunch of neurons that the information then
goes off to what are called the cochlear nuclei in the brainstem.
Brainstem is down near your neck, then up to a structure that has a
really cool name called the superior olive, because you have one on
each side of your brain. And if I were to bring you to my lab and show
you the superior olives in your brain or anyone else's brain, they
look like little olives, even that little divot in them that to me, it
looks like a pimiento, but they just call them the superior olive. And
then the neurons in the superior olive, then they send information up
to what's called the inferior colliculus, only called inferior because
it sits below a structure called the superior colliculus. And then the
information goes up to what's called the medial geniculate nucleus.
And then up to your neocortex where you make sense of it all. Now you
don't have to remember all that, but you should know that there are a
lot of stations in which auditory information is processed before it
gets up to our conscious detection. And there is a good reason for
that, which is that more important than knowing what you're hearing,
you need to know where it's coming from.
It's vital to our survival, that if something, for instance, is
falling toward us, that we know if it's coming to our right side, if
it's going to hit us from behind, we have to know, for instance, if a
car is coming at us from our left or from our right. And our visual
system can help with that. But our auditory and our visual system
collaborate to help us find and locate the position of things in
space. That should come as no surprise. If you hear somebody talking
off to your right, you tend to turn to your right, not to your left.
If you see somebody's mouth moving in front of you, you tend to assume
that the sound is going to come from right in front of you.
Disruptions in this auditory hearing and visual matching are actually
the basis of what's called the ventriloquism effect, which we'll talk
about in a few minutes in more depth. But the ventriloquism effect can
basically be described in simple terms as when you essentially think
that a sound is coming from a location that it's not actually coming
from. We'll talk about that in a moment but what I'd like you to
realize is that one of these stations, deep in your brainstem is
responsible for helping you identify where sounds are coming from
through a process that's called interaural time differences. And that
sounds fancy, but really, the way you know where things are coming
from, what direction a car or a boss or a person is coming from is
because the sound lands in one ear before the other. And you have
stations in your brain, meaning you have neurons in your brain that
calculate the difference in time of arrival for those sound waves in
your right versus your left ear. And if they arrive at the same time,
you assume that thing is making noise right in front of you. If it's
off to your right, you assume it's over on your right. And if the
sound arrives first to your left ear, you assume, quite correctly,
that the thing is coming toward your left ear. So it's a very simple
and mechanical system at the level of sound localization. But what
about up and down? If you think about it, a sound coming from above is
going to land on your right ear and your left ear at the same time. A
sound from below is going to land on your right ear and your left ear
at the same time. So the way that we know where things are in terms of
what's called elevation, where they are in the up and down plane is by
the frequencies. The shape of your ears actually modifies the sound
depending on whether or not it's coming straight at you, from the
floor or from high above. And so already at the level of your ears,
you are taking information about the outside world and determining
where that information is coming from. Now, this all happens very,
very fast and it's subconscious but now you know why if people really
want to hear something, they make a cup around their ear. They
essentially make their ear into more of a fennec fox type ear. If
you've ever seen those cute little fennec fox things, they have these
big spiky ears, they look like a French bulldog, although the fox
version version of the French bulldog. This big, tall ears, and they
have excellent sound localization. And so when people lean in with
their ear, with their hand like this, if you're listening to this, I'm
just cupping my hand at my ear, I'm giving myself a bigger pinna. And
if I do it on the left side, I can do this side. And if I really want
to hear something, I do it on both sides. So this isn't just
gesturing, this actually serves a mechanical role. And actually, if
you want to hear where things are coming from with a much greater
degree of accuracy, this can actually help because you're capturing
sound waves and funneling them better. It's really remarkable, this
whole system. So you've got these two ears and because of the
differences in the timing of when things arrive in those two ears, as
well as these differences in the frequencies that certain things
sound, or I should say the differences in the frequencies that arrive
at your ears, depending on whether or not the thing is above you or
right in front of you or below you, you're able to make out where
things are in space pretty well.
So now you're probably starting to realize that these two things on
the side of our head that we call ears are there for a lot more than
hanging earrings on or for other aesthetic purposes or for putting
sunglasses on top of. They are very powerful devices for allowing us
to capture sound waves from our environment. Now I have a question for
you, which is, can you move your ears? It turns out that unlike other
animals, humans are not terrifically good at moving their ears. Other
animals can move their ears even independently. So Costello is pretty
good at raising his ears, the two of them together, He can't really
move his ear separately. Some dogs can do that really well. In fact,
sighthounds and some scenthounds do that exquisitely well. Some
animals like deer and other animals that really have very acute
hearing will put one ear down to a very particular angle and will tilt
the other one and they will actually capture information about two
distant sound-making organisms, those could be hunters coming after
them or other animals coming after them. They are very good at doing
this. We're not so good at it. But about 60% of people, it's thought,
can move their ears consciously without having to touch their ear. So
can you do that? Maybe you should try it. Ask someone to look at you
and see whether or not you can do it. The typical distances that
people can move it is usually no more than two or three millimeters.
It's subtle but can you flap your pinna with just using mental
control? If you can, or if you can't, try looking all the way to your
right or all the way to your left. Obviously, if you're driving a car
or doing something or exercising, don't put yourself in danger right
now. But if you move your eyes all the way to your left, which I'm
doing now or all the way to my right, you might feel a little bit of a
contraction of the muscles that control ear movement. Now I want to
ask you this: can you raise one eyebrow? I'm not very good at it, I
can do a little bit, but it's mostly by like cramping down my face on
one side. And I certainly can't raise my right eyebrow. I can only do
my left eyebrow. Trying to talk while I'm doing this, that's why it
looks strange. People who can raise one eyebrow very easily, almost
always, can move their ears without having to touch them. It's
controlled by the same motor pathway. And there does seem to be a
small, but statistically significant sex difference in the ability to
move one's ears. Typically, men can do this more than women can,
although plenty of women can move their ears as well. Now, if you
think that is all a little strange or off topic, it's not because what
we're really talking about here is a system of the brain, but also of
the body of the musculature for localizing things in space. And so you
might find it interesting to note that one of the things that we share
very closely with other primates, with non-human primates, like
macaque monkeys and chimpanzees, if you look at their ears, their ears
are remarkably similar to our ears, or rather our ears are remarkably
similar to their ears. The eyes of certain monkeys like macaque
monkeys are remarkably similar to human eyes. This is one of the
reasons why, if you look at a baby macaque monkey, it has this
unbelievably human element to it. But the ears of these primates is
very similar to our ears; our ears, similar to their ears. If you're
interested in ear movements and what they could mean and some of the
things that ear movements correlate with in other aspects of our
biology, there's a nice paper, actually, a scientific paper. The
author's last name is Code, C-O-D-E, it was published in 1995. I'll
give a reference to that. It's a review article that discusses some of
the sex differences in ear movement control, as well as the
relationship between ear movements and eye movements. And it's a
pretty accessible paper. It's one that I think any of you who are
interested in this topic could parse fairly easily. And there's some
very interesting underlying biology and some theories as to why humans
would have this so-called vestigial or ancient carry-over of a system
for moving our ears. Now, if ear movement seems strange, next, I want
to talk about a different feature of your hearing and ears that's even
stranger, but that has some really interesting implications for your
biology. And I'm guessing that you've not heard of this.
What am I about to describe are called otoacoustic emissions. And
otoacoustic emissions, as the name suggests, are sounds that your ears
make. Believe it or not, 70% of people make noises with their ears,
but they don't actually detect them. Like I said, you've never heard
of this. Okay, that's not what I mean. But what I do mean is that 70%
of people's ears are making noise that's cast out of the ear. And
these otoacoustic emissions, actually, can be detected by microphones.
Sometimes they can be detected by other people in the room if they
have very good hearing. Now, it turns out that women or, I should be
technical here, females who report themselves as heterosexual, have a
higher frequency, not frequency of sound, but a higher frequency of
otoacoustic emissions than do men who report themselves as
heterosexual. Women who report themselves as homosexual or bisexual,
make fewer otoacoustic emissions than heterosexual women. These are
data that come from Dennis McFadden's lab at the University of Texas,
Austin. He actually discovered these, what are called sexual
dimorphisms and differences based on sexual orientation without
looking for them. He was studying hearing. He's a auditory scientist
and people were coming into his laboratory and they were detecting
these otoacoustic emissions. And they started to notice the group
differences in otoacoustic emissions. So they started asking people
about their sex and about their sexual orientation. And these
differences fell out of the data, as we say. And it's interesting
because otoacoustic emissions are not something that we associate with
sex or sexual dimorphism. But what these data really underscore is,
first of all, a lot of us are making noises with our ears, some of us
more than others. And that exposure to certain combinations of
hormones during development are very likely shaping the way that our
hearing apparati, meaning the cochlea and the pinna and all sorts of
things, how those develop and how those functions throughout the
lifespan. We did do an episode on hormones and sexual development,
which gets much deeper into the other effects that hormones have on
the developing brain and body. If you want to check out that episode,
we will put a link to it in the captions. So now I want to shift to
talking about ways to leverage your hearing system, your auditory
system so that you can learn anything, not just auditory information,
but anything faster.
I get a lot of questions about so-called binaural beats. Binaural
beats, as their name suggests, involve playing one frequency of sound
to one ear and a different frequency of sound to the other ear. So it
might be doomed, doon, doon, doon to your right ear, and it might be
to ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding to the left ear. And the idea is that
the brain will take those two frequencies of sound and because the
pathways that bring information from the ears into the brain,
eventually crossover, they actually share that information with both
sides of the brain, that the brain will average that information and
come up with this sort of intermediate frequency. And the rationale is
that those intermediate frequencies place the brain into a state that
is better for learning. And when I say better for learning, I want to
be precise about what I mean. That could mean more focus for encoding
or bringing the information in. As you may have heard me say before,
we have to be alert and focused in order to learn. There is no passive
learning unless we're little tiny infants. So can binaural beats make
us more focused? Can binaural beats allow us to relax more if we're
anxious? I know some people, they go to the dentist and the dentist
offers binaural beats as they drill into your teeth and give root
canals and things of that sort, probably causing some anxiety just
describing those things right now. But those are available in many
dental practices. Binaural beats have been thought to increase
creativity, or at least they have been proposed to increase
creativity. So what does the scientific data say about binaural beats?
There are a number of different apps out there that offer binaural
beats. There are a number of different programs. I think you can also
even just find these on YouTube and on the internet. But typically,
it's an app and you'll program in a particular outcome that you want:
more focused, more creative, fall asleep, less anxious, et cetera. So
what does the scientific data say? So believe it or not, the science
on binaural beats is actually quite extensive and very precise. So
sound waves are measured, typically, in hertz or kilohertz. I know
many of you aren't familiar with thinking about things in hertz or
kilohertz. But again, just remember those waves on a pond, those
ripples on a pond. If they're close together, then they are of high-
frequency. And if they're far apart, than they are of low frequency.
So when you hear more hertz, what you're essentially hearing is higher
frequency. And so if it's many more kilohertz then it's much higher
frequency than if it's fewer hertz or kilohertz. And so you may have
heard of these things as delta waves or theta waves or alpha waves or
beta waves, et cetera. Delta waves would be big, slow waves, so low
frequency. And, indeed, there is quality evidence from peer-reviewed
studies that are not sponsored by companies that make binaural beat
apps that tell us that delta waves like one to four hertz, so very low
frequency sounds, think Costello's snoring, can help in the transition
to sleep and for staying asleep. And that theta rhythms, which are
more like four to eight hertz can bring the brain into a state of
subtle sleep or meditation, so deeply relaxed, but not fully asleep.
And then you can sort of ascend the staircase of findings here, so to
speak. And you'll find evidence that alpha waves, eight to 13 hertz
can increase alertness to a moderate level. That's a great state for
the brain to be in for recall of existing information. And that beta
waves, 15 to 20 hertz are great for bringing the brain into focus
states for sustained thought or for incorporating new information and
especially gamma waves, the highest frequency, the most frequent
ripples of sound, so to speak, 32 to 100 hertz for learning and
problem-solving. Now, all of this matches, or I should say, maps onto
what I've said before about learning really nicely, which is that you
need to be in a highly alert state in order to bring new information
in, in order to access a state of mind in which you can tell your
brain or the brain is telling itself, okay, I need to learn this. This
is why stress and unfortunate circumstances are so memorable is
because our brain gets into a really high alert system. Here, we're
talking about the use of binaural beats in order to increase our level
of alertness or our level of calmness. Now that's important to
underscore because it's not that there's something fundamentally
important about the binaural beats. They are yet another way of
bringing the brain into states of deep relaxation through low
frequency sound or highly alert states for focused learning with more
high-frequency sound. So they are effective and I'll review a little
bit of the data in detail, they're effective, but it's not that
they're uniquely special for learning. It's just that they can help
some people bring their brain into the state that allows them to learn
better. So there are a lot of studies that allowed us to arrive, or I
should say allowed the field to arrive on these parameters of slow,
slow, low frequency waves are going to bring you into relaxed states,
high frequency waves into more alert states. There's very good
evidence for anxiety reduction from the use of binaural beats. And
what's interesting is anxiety reduction seems to be most effective
when the binaural beats are bringing the brain into delta, so those
slow big waves like sleep, theta and alpha states. And I'll link to a
couple of these studies although I will probably link more to the list
that really segregates them out one by one so you can see them all
next to one another. There's good evidence that binaural beats can be
used to treat pain, chronic pain. There's three studies in peer-
reviewed journals which I took a look at, and they seem to be of good
quality, not sponsored research, as we say, not paid for by any
specific company. Binaural beats have been shown to modestly improve
cognition, attention, working memory and even creativity. But the real
boost from binaural beats appears to be for anxiety reduction and pain
reduction. Some people might find these beneficial for these oral
surgeries, right? Believe it or not, there are people who would rather
have the entire root canal or cavity drilled without Novocaine. And
that's because they sometimes have a syringe phobia or something of
that sort or they just don't like being numb from the Novocaine, or
maybe there's an underlying medical reason. But I think most people do
don't enjoy getting their teeth drilled even if they have Novocaine in
there or a root canal. And so it seems that binaural beats can be
effective in that environment. And you don't have to go into that sort
of extreme environment to benefit from binaural beats. Binaural beats
are a either relatively inexpensive thing to access, most of the apps
are pretty inexpensive. I don't have a favorite binaural beats app to
recommend to you. I confess I did use binaural beats a few years ago.
I shifted over to other what I call NSDR, non-sleep deep rest
protocols in favor of those, but many people like binaural beats and
say that they benefit from them, especially while studying or
learning. I think part of the reason for that relates to the ability
to channel our focus when we have some background noise. And this is
something I also get asked about a lot. Is it better to listen to
music and have background noise when studying or is it better to have
complete silence? Well, there's actually a quite good literature on
this as well, but not so much as it relates to binaural beats, but
rather whether or not people are listening to music, so-called white
noise, brown noise; believe it or not, there's white noise and there's
brown noise, there's even pink noise and how that impacts brain states
that allow us to learn information better or not. So now I'd like to
talk about white noise and I want to be very clear that white noise
has been shown to really enhance brain states for learning in certain
individuals, in particular, in adults.
But white noise actually can have a detrimental effect on auditory
learning and maybe even the development of the auditory system in very
young children in particular in infants. So first I'd like to talk
about the beneficial effects of white noise on learning. There are
some really excellent studies on this. The first one that I'd like to
just highlight is one that's entitled: Low Intensity White Noise
Improves Performance in Auditory Working Memory Task, an fMRI Study.
This is a study that explored whether or not learning could be
enhanced by playing white noise in the background. But the strength of
the study is that they looked at some of the underlying neural
circuitry and the activation of the neural circuitry in these people
as they did the learning task. And what it, essentially, illustrates
is that white noise, provided that white noise is of low enough
intensity, meaning not super loud, not imperceptible, so not so quiet
that you can't hear it, but not super loud either, it actually could
enhance learning to a significant degree. And this has been shown now
for a huge number of different types of learning. There's a terrific
article as well in a somewhat obscure journal, at least, obscure to
me, which is: The Effects of Noise Exposure on Cognitive Performance
and Brain Activity Patterns. That's a study involving 54 subjects.
They, basically, were evaluated for mental workload and attention
under different levels of noise exposure, background noise and
different, essentially, loudness of noise. And the reason I like this
study is that they looked at different levels of noise and types of
noise, and they varied a number of different things, as opposed to
just doing a two-condition, either white noise or no white noise type
thing. And what they found, again, is that provided the white noise is
not extremely loud, it could really enhance brain function for sake of
learning any number of different kinds of information. Now that's all
great, but it really doesn't get to the deeper guts of mechanism. And
as a neuroscientist, what I really want to see is not just that
something has an effect. That's always nice. It's always nice to see
in a nice peer-reviewed study without any kind of commercial biases
that there's an effect, binaural beats can enhance learning or
listening to white noise, not too loud can enhance learning. But you
really want to understand mechanism because once you understand
mechanism, not only does it start to make sense, but you can also
imagine ways in which you could develop better tools and protocols. So
I was very relieved to find, or I should say excited to find this
study published in the Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, this is a
2014 paper, White Noise Improves Learning by Modulating Activity in
Dopaminergic Mid-Brain Regions and Right Superior Temporal Sulcus. Now
I don't expect you to know what the right spirit temporal sulcus is. I
don't expect you to know what the dopamine midbrain region is, but if
you're like me, you probably took highlighted notice of the word
dopaminergic. Dopamine is a neuromodulator, meaning it's a chemical
that's released in our brain and body, but mostly in our brain that
modulates, meaning controls the likelihood that certain brain areas
will be active and other brain areas won't be active. And dopamine is
associated with motivation. Dopamine is associated with craving.
Motivation is associated with all sorts of different things, including
movement but what this study so nicely shows is that white noise can
really enhance the activity of neurons in what's called the substantia
nigra VTA. The substantia nigra VTA is a very rich source of dopamine
and that's because it's very chockablock full of dopamine neurons.
It's an area of the brain that is, perhaps, the richest source of
dopamine neurons. And you actually can see this brain region under the
microscope if you take a slice of brain or you look at a brain without
even staining it for any proteins or dopamine or anything. It's two
very dark regions at the bottom of the brain. And the reason it's
called substantia nigra, nigra meaning dark is because the dopamine
neurons actually make something that makes those neurons dark. And so
you've got these two regions down there, that contain dopamine and can
release dopamine and, essentially, activate other brain regions and
activate our sense of motivation and activate our sense of desire to
continue focusing and learning. But you can't just snap your fingers
and make them release dopamine. You actually have to trigger dopamine
release from them. Now that trigger can be caused by being very
excited about something or the fact that that thing gave you a lot of
pleasure in the past, or you're highly motivated by fear or desire.
But what's so interesting to me is that it appears that white noise
itself can raise what we call the basal, the baseline levels of
dopamine that are being released from this area, the substantia nigra.
So now we're starting to get a more full picture of how particular
sounds in our environment can increase learning. And that's, in part,
I believe, through the release of dopamine from substantia nigra. So
I'm not trying to shift you away from binaural beats, if that's your
thing, but it does appear that turning on white noise at a low level,
not too loud. You may say, "Well, how loud?" And I'll tell you in a
moment, but not too loud can allow you to learn better because of the
ways that it's modulating your brain chemistry. So how loud or how
soft should that white noise be while you learn? Well, in these
studies, it seemed that white noise that could be heard by the person,
so it wasn't imperceptible to them, so it was loud enough that they
could hear, but not so loud that they felt it was intrusive or
irritating to them. So that's going to differ from person to person
because people have different levels of auditory sensitivity. It's
going to depend on age, going to depend on a number of different
factors. So I can't tell you turn to level two on your volume
controller. That's just not going to work. Also, I don't know how far
you are from a given speaker in the room or if you've got earphones in
your head or you've got speakers in the room or if it's coming out of
your computer. I don't know those things. So what you're going to have
to do is adjust that white noise to the place where it's not
interfering with your ability to focus, but rather it's enhancing your
ability to focus. I think a good rule of thumb is going to be to put
it probably on the lower third of any kind of volume dial, as opposed
to in the upper third, where it would really be blasting. And really
blasting any noise, frankly, is not good, but that's especially not
good, meaning it's especially bad if you have headphones in.
I do want to mention something about headphones before I talk about
white noise in the developmental context and why it can be dangerous
there. When you put headphones in your ears, it has this incredible
effect of making the sounds like they come from inside your head, not
from out in the room. And now that might seem like kind of a duh, but
that's actually really amazing, right? Your brain assumes that the
sounds are coming from inside your head, as opposed from the
environment that you're in the moment you put headphones in. So if
you're listening to an audiobook or maybe you're listening to this
podcast with headphones, that's very different than when you're
listening to something out in the room and there are other sounds,
other sound waves, especially if you use these noise-cancellation
headphones. So if you're going to use white noise to enhance studying
or learning of any kind, this also could be for skill-learning, motor
skill-learning while you're exercising, my suggestion would be that if
you're using headphones, to keep it quite low. This is an effect on
the midbrain dopamine neurons that's a background effect of raising
the baseline of dopamine release. The way that dopamine neurons fires,
they're always firing; yours are firing right now, so are mine, when
something exciting happens, they fire a lot. And when something
disappointing happens, that firing, the release of dopamine goes down
below baseline. What you're talking about here is raising your overall
levels of attention and motivation, which translate to better learning
by just tickling those neurons a little bit, raising the baseline
firing. You're not turning up the white noise to the point where
you're feeling amazing. This isn't like turning on your favorite song.
This is actually the opposite. This is about getting that baseline up
just a bit. So I recommend turning the volume up just a bit so that
you can focus entirely on the task that you're trying to do. And, of
course, you've turned on white noise so your attention might drift to
that for a moment. Is it too loud? Is it too soft? If you can
disappear into the work, so to speak, if your attention can disappear
into the work, then that's probably sufficiently quiet. And for those
of you that say, well, I like really loud music and if I just blast
the music, then I forget about the music. I don't suggest blasting
music. And this is coming from somebody who really likes loud music. I
grew up with kind of a loud fast rules mentality, and if you don't
know what loud fast rules means, then I can't help you, but there's a
time and a place, perhaps, to listen to music loud but, especially,
with headphones, you can trigger, excuse me, hearing loss quite
rapidly. And unfortunately, because these hair cells that we talked
about earlier, our central nervous system neurons, they do not
regenerate, they do not come back. Now along the lines of hearing
loss, I should just say that the best way to blow out your hearing for
good, to eliminate your hearing is to have very loud sounds super
imposed on a loud environment. So loud environments can cause hearing
loss over time. So if you work at a construction site, clanging really
loud, or if you work the sound board in a club or something, you are
headed towards hearing loss unless you protect your hearing with
earplugs and headphones. Nowadays, some of the ear plugs are very low
profile, meaning you can't see them. So that's kind of nice, so you're
not like the, when I was younger, like you didn't want to be the dork
to go to the concert with the earplugs, but it turns out those dorks
were smarter than everybody else, because they're not the ones who are
craning their neck to try and hear trivial things at the age of 30 or
so 'cause they blew out their hearing. So if you are working in a loud
environment or you expose yourselves to a loud environment, you really
want to avoid big inflections in sound above that. So loud environment
plus fireworks, loud environment plus gunshot, loud environments plus
very high-frequency intense sound, that's what we call the two-hit
model, this is also true for concussion, that you can take a stimulus
that normally would be below the threshold of injury, you add another
stimulus at the same time, that would be below the threshold of
injury. And then, suddenly, you killed the neurons. So I don't want to
make people paranoid, but you do want to protect your hearing. It's no
fun to lose your hearing. If you're going to use headphones and you
feel like you want to crank it up all the way, just remember that the
more that you can get out of a lower volume, meaning the longer that
you can go listening to things at lower volume, the longer you'll be
able to hear that music or that thing. So again, I'm not the hearing
cop. That's not my job, but as somebody who's lost some of his high-
frequency hearing, I can tell you it's not a pleasure. The old
argument that it helps you not have to hear or listen to people that
you don't want to listen to, that does it doesn't really work. They
just send you text messages instead. So what about white noise and
hearing loss in development?
I know a lot of people with children have these noise machines like
sound waves and things like that, that help the kids sleep. And look,
I think kids getting good sleep and parents getting good sleep is
vital to physical and mental health and family health. So I certainly
sympathize with those needs. However, there are data that indicate
that white noise during development can be detrimental to the auditory
system. I don't want to frighten any parents if you played white noise
to your kids, this doesn't mean that their auditory system or their
speech patterns are going to be disrupted or that their interpretation
of speech is going to be disrupted forever. But there are data
published in the journal, Science, and Science being one of the three,
APEX Journal, Science, Nature, Cell, the most stringent journals, data
published in the journal, Science, some years ago, actually by a
scientist who I know quite well, his name is Edward Chang, he's a
medical doctor now, he's a neurosurgeon, he's actually the chair of
neurosurgery at UCSF and he runs a laboratory where they study
auditory learning, neuroplasticity, et cetera, he and his mentor at
the time, Mike Merzenich published a paper showing that if young
animals and this was in animal models were exposed to white noise, so
[shushing] the very type of noise that I'm saying as a older person,
and when I say older, I mean, somebody who's in their late teens,
early 20s and older could benefit from listening to that at a low
level in the background for sake of learning, well, they exposed very
young animals to this white noise, it actually disrupted the maps of
the auditory world within the brain. And we haven't talked about these
maps yet, but I want to take a moment and talk about them and explain
this effect and what it might mean for you if you have kids or if you
were exposed to a lot of white noise early on. So auditory information
goes up into our cortex, into these, essentially, the outside portion
of our brain that's responsible for all our higher level cognition and
our planning, our decision-making, et cetera, creativity and up there,
we have what are called tonotopic maps. What's a tonotopic map? Well,
remember the cochlea, how it's coiled and at one end, it responds to
high frequencies and the other end, it responds to low frequencies?
Like a piano, the keys sound different as you extend down and up the
piano keys. And it's organized in a very systematic way. It's not all
intermixed high frequencies and low frequencies. It's organized in a
very systematic way from one end to the other. Your visual system is
in, what's called a retinotopic map. So neighboring points in space
off to my right, like my two fingers off to my right are mapped to
neighboring points in space in my brain. And that space right in front
of me is mapped to a different location in my brain, but it's
systematic, it's regular. It's not random. It's not salt and pepper.
It goes from high to low or from right to center to left. In the
auditory system, we have what are called tonotopic maps, where
frequency, high frequency to low frequency and everything in between
is organized in a very systematic way. Now our experience of life from
the time we're a baby until the time that we die is not systematic. We
don't hear low frequencies at one part of the room or at one part of
the day and high frequencies is another part of the room and other
part of the day, they're all intermixed. But if you remember, the
cochlea separates them out. Just like a prism of light separates out
the different wavelengths of light, the cochlea separates out the
different frequencies. And the developing brain takes those separated
out frequencies and learns this relationship between itself, meaning
the child and the outside world. White noise, essentially contains no
tonotopic information. The frequencies are all intermixed. It's just
noise. Whereas when I speak, my voice has, now I'm getting technical,
but it has what's called a certain envelope, meaning it has some low
frequencies and some slightly higher frequency. Like I might a voice
higher, although I'm not very good at that. My voice starts to crack
and I can make my voice lower, although not as low as Costello's
snore. So it has an envelope, it has a container. White noise has no
container. It's like all the colors of the rainbow spread out
together, which is actually what you get when you get white light
white noise is analogous to white light. So one of the reasons why
hearing a lot of white noise during development for long periods of
time can be detrimental to the development of the auditory system is
that these tonotopic maps don't form normally; at least, they don't in
experimental animals. Now, the reason I'm raising this is that many
people I know, in particular, friends who have small children, they
say, "I want to use a white noise machine while I sleep. But is it
okay for my baby to use a white noise machine?" And I consulted with
various people, scientists about this. And they said, "Well, the baby
is also hearing the parent's voices and is hearing music and it's
hearing the dog bark. So it's not the only thing they're hearing."
However, every single person that I consulted with said, "But there's
neuroplasticity during sleep. That's when the kid is sleeping. And I
don't know that you'd want to expose a child to white noise the entire
night, because it might degrade that tonotopic map." It might not
destroy it. It might not eliminate it, but it could make it a little
less clear, like taking the keys on the piano and taping a few of them
together, right? So you still got the highs and lows in the
appropriate order and everything in between. But when you take the
keys together, you don't get the same fidelity. You don't get the same
precision of the noise that comes out of that piano. So, again, I
don't want to scare anybody, but I would say if you are in a position
to make the choice of either using white noise or something similar,
pink noise is just a variation. It's got a little bit more of a
certain frequency, just like pink light has a little bit more of a
certain wavelength than white light. If you are in a position to make
choices about things, to put in a young, especially very young child's
sleeping environment, white noise might be something to consider
avoiding. Again, I'm not telling you what to do, but it's something to
perhaps consider avoiding. I don't think most pediatricians are going
to be aware of these data, but if you talk to any auditory
physiologists or an audiologist or somebody who studies auditory
development, I'm fairly certain that they would have opinions about
that. Now, whether or not their opinions agree with mine and these
folks that I consulted with or not is a separate matter. I don't know,
cause I don't know them, but it's something that I felt was important
enough to cue you to, especially since I've highlighted, excuse me,
the opposite effect is true in adulthood. Once your auditory system
has formed, once it's established these tonotopic maps, then the
presence of background white noise should not be a problem at all. In
fact, it shouldn't be a problem at all because you're also not
attending to it. The idea is that it's playing at a low enough volume
that you forget it in the background and that it's supporting learning
by bringing your brain into a heightened state of alertness and,
especially, this heightened state of dopamine, dopaminergic activation
of the brain, which will make it easier to learn faster and easier to
learn the information. So now I want to talk about auditory learning
and actually how you can get better at learning information that you
hear, not just information that you see on a page or motor skill
learning.
There are a lot of reasons to want to do this. A lot of classroom
teaching, whether or not it's by Zoom or in-person is auditory in
nature. Not everything is necessarily written down for us. It's also
good to get better at listening or so I'm told. So there's a
phenomenon called the cocktail party effect. Now, even if you've never
been to a cocktail party, you've experienced and participated in
what's called the cocktail party effect. The cocktail party effect is
where you are in an environment that's rich with sound, many sound
waves coming from many different sources, many different things, so in
a city, in a classroom, in a car that contains people having various
conversations, you somehow need to be able to attend to specific
components of those sound waves, meaning you need to hear certain
people and not others. The reason it's called the cocktail party
effect is that you and meaning your brain are exquisitely good at
creating a cone of auditory attention, a narrow band of attention with
which you can extract the information you care about and wipe away or
erase all the rest. Now this takes work, it takes attention. One of
the reasons why you might come home from a loud gathering, maybe a
stadium, a sports event or a cocktail party, for that matter, and feel
just exhausted is because if you were listening to conversations there
or trying to listen to those conversations while watching the game and
people moving past you and hearing all this noise, clinking of
glasses, et cetera, it takes attentional effort and the brain uses up
a lot of energy just at rest, but it uses up even more energy when you
are paying strong attention to something, literally caloric energy
burning up things like glucose, et cetera, even if you're ketogenic,
it's burning up energy. So the cocktail party effect has been studied
extensively in the field of neuroscience and we now know at a
mechanistic level, how one accomplishes this feat of attending to
certain sounds, despite the fact that we are being bombarded with all
sorts of other sounds. So there are a couple ways that we do this.
First of all, much as with our visual system, we can expand or
contract our visual field of view, so we can go from panoramic vision,
see the entire scene that we are in by dilating our gaze, talked a lot
about this on this podcast and elsewhere. We can, for instance, keep
our head and eyes stationary or mostly stationary, you don't have to
be rigid about it, and you can expand your field of view so you can
see the walls and ceiling and floor, can see yourself in the
environment, that's panoramic view. It's what you would accomplish
without having to try at all if you went to a horizon, for instance,
or we can contract our field of view, I can bring my focus to a
particular location, what we call a vergence point, directly in front
of me. Now I'm pointing at the camera directly in front of me. We can
do that, we can expand and contract our visual field of view. Well, we
can expand and contract our auditory field of view, so to speak, our
auditory window. You can try this next time you are in an environment
that's rich with noise, meaning lots of different sounds. You can just
tune out all the noise to a background chatter. You try not focus on
any one particular sound and you get the background chatter of noise.
And you'll find that it's actually very relaxing in comparison to
trying to listen to somebody at a cocktail party or shouting back and
forth. Now, if you're very, very interested in that person, or getting
to know them better or what they're telling you, or some combination
of those things, then you'll be very motivated to do it but
nonetheless, it requires energy and effort and attention. How do we do
this? Well, it's actually quite simple or, at least, it's simple, in
essence, although the underlying mechanisms are complex. Here, I have
to credit the laboratory of a guy named Mike Wehr, W-E-H-R, up at the
University of Oregon who essentially figured out that we are able to
accomplish this extraction of particular sounds. We can really hear
one person or a small number of people amidst a huge background of
chatter because we pay attention to the onset of words, but also to
the offset of words. Now, the way to visualize this is if the
background noise is just like a bunch of waves of noise, it's
literally just sound waves coming every frequency, low frequency, high
frequency, glasses clinking together. If you've got a game, people are
shouting, people are talking on their phone, there's the crack of the
ball, if somebody actually manages to hit the ball, the announcer, et
cetera, but whatever we were paying attention to, we set up a cone of
auditory attention, a tunnel of auditory attention, where we are
listening although we don't realize it, we are listening for the onset
and the offset of those words. Now this is powerful for a couple of
reasons. First of all, it's a call to arms, so to speak, to disengage
your auditory system when you don't need to focus your attention on
something particular. So if you are somebody, you're coming home from
work, you've had a very long day and you're trying to make out a
particular conversation on background noise, you might consider just
not having that conversation, just letting your auditory landscape be
very broad, almost like panoramic vision. If you're trying to learn
how to extract sound information, it could be notes of music, it could
be scales of music, it could be words spoken by somebody else, maybe
somebody is telling you what you need to say for a particular speech
or the information that you need to learn for a particular topic, and
they're telling it to you, deliberately paying attention both to the
onset and to the offset of those words can be beneficial because it is
exactly the way that the auditory system likes to bring in
information. So one of the more common phenomenon that I think we all
experience is you go to a party or you meet somebody new and you say
hi, I would say, "Hi, I'm Andrew." And they'd say, "Hi, I'm Jeff," for
instance. "Great to meet you." And then a minute later, I can't
remember the guy's name. Now, is it because I don't care what his name
is? No, somehow the presence of other auditory information interfered.
It's not that my mind was necessarily someplace else. It's that the
signal-to-noise as we say wasn't high enough. Somehow the way he said
it or the way it landed on my ears, which is really all that matters,
when it comes down to learning, is such that it just didn't achieve
high enough signal-to-noise. The noise was too high or the signal was
too low or some combination of those. So the next time you ask
somebody's name, remember listen to the onset of what they say and the
offset. So it would be paying attention to the j in Jeff and it would
be paying attention to that in f in F, in Jeff, excuse me. And chances
are, you'll be able to remember that name. Now, I don't know if people
who are super learners of names do this naturally or not. I don't have
access to their brains. I don't think they're going to give me access
to their brains either. But it's a very interesting way to take the
natural biology of auditory attention and learning and apply it to
scenarios where you're trying to remember either people's names or
specific information. Now, I do acknowledge that trying to learn every
word in a sentence by paying attention to its onset and offset could
actually be disruptive to the learning process. So this would be more
for specific attention, like you're asking directions in a city and
somebody says, okay, you say you're lost and they say, okay, you're
going to go two blocks down, you're going to turn left. And then
you're going to see a landmark on your right. And then you're going to
go in the third door on your left. That's a lot of information, at
least, for me. So the way you would want to listen to that is you're
going to go down the road. See, I already forgot. You're going to go
left and you're just going to program and instead of just hearing the
word left, you're going to think the L at the front of left and the T.
You're going to left, okay. So you're coding in specific words. And
what this does is this hijacks these naturally-occurring attention
mechanisms that the auditory system likes to use. So a little bit of
data that for auditory encoding, this kind of thing can be beneficial.
There are a lot of data that attention for auditory coding is
beneficial. There are a little bit of data showing that deliberately
encoding auditory information this way, meaning trying to learn
auditory information this way can be beneficial or can accelerate
learning. And some of these features of what I'm describing here, map
onto some of the work that of Mike Merzenich and others that have been
designed to try and overcome things like stutter and to treat various
forms of auditory learning disorders. But more importantly, and
perhaps more powerful is the work of Mike Merzenich that was done with
his then graduate student, Gregg Recanzone that showed that, using the
attentional system, we can actually learn much faster and we can
actually activate neuroplasticity in the adult brain, something that's
very challenging to do.
And that the auditory system is one of the main ways in which we can
access neuroplasticity more broadly. So I just want to take a couple
of minutes and describe the work of Recanzone and Merzenich, because
it's absolutely fantastic and fascinating. What they did is they had
subjects try to learn auditory information, except that they told them
to pay attention to particular frequencies. So now you know what
frequencies are so, essentially, high-pitched sounds or low-pitched
sounds. What they found was just passively listening to a bunch of
stuff does not allow the brain to change and for that stuff to be
remembered at all. That's not a surprise. We've all experienced the
phenomenon of having someone talk and we see their mouth moving and
we're like, yeah, this is really important, this is really important.
We're listening. We're trying to listen. And then they walk away and
we think I didn't get any of that. And you wonder whether or not it
was them, maybe this is happening to you right now. You wonder whether
or not it was you, you wonder whether or not you have trouble with
learning or you have attention deficit. It could be any number of
different things. But what Recanzone and Merzenich discovered was that
if you instruct subjects to listen for particular cues within speech,
or within sounds, that not only can you learn those things more
quickly, but that you can remap these tonotopic maps in the cortex
that I referred to earlier. You actually get changes in the neural
architecture, the neural circuitry in the brain, and this can occur
not only very rapidly, but they can occur in the adult brain, which
prior to their work was not thought to be amenable to change. It was
long thought that neuroplasticity could only occur in the developing
brain, but the work of Recanzone and Merzenich in the auditory system
actually was some of the first that really opened up everybody's eyes
and ears to the idea that the brain can change in adulthood. So here's
how this sort of process would work and how you might apply it. If you
are trying to learn music, or you're trying to learn information that
you're going to then recite, you can decide to highlight certain words
or certain frequencies of sound or certain scales or certain keys on
the piano, and to only focus on those for certain learning bouts. So
I'll give an example that's real time for me, meaning it's happening
right now. I know generally what I want to say when I arrive here, I
even know specifically certain things that I want to make sure get
across to you, but I don't think about every single word that I'm
going to say and the precise order in which I'm going to say those
things. That would be actually very disruptive because it wouldn't
match my normal patterns of speech and you'd probably think I was
sounding rather robotic if I were to do that. So one way that we can
remember information is as we write out, for instance, something that
we want to say, we can highlight particular words, we can underline
those. If we're listening to somebody and they're telling us
information, we can decide just to highlight particular words that
they said to us and write those down. Now, of course, we're listening
to all the information, but the work of Recanzone and Merzenich and
the work of others in addition to his former student or former post-
doc, I don't know which, Michael Kilgard who's now got his own lab
down in Texas or others have shown that the cuing of attention to
particular features of speech, particular components of speech, the
way in which it increases our level of attention overall allows us to
capture more of the information overall. And so I don't want this to
be abstract at all. What this means is when you're listening, you
don't have to listen to every word. You're already listening to every
word. All the information is coming in through your ears. What you're
trying to extract is particular things or themes within the content.
So maybe you decide if you're listening to me that you're only going
to listen to the word tools, or you're only going to listen to when my
voice goes above background, you get to decide what you decide to
listen to or not. And what you decide to focus on isn't necessarily as
important as the fact that you're focusing. So I hope that's clear.
The auditory system does this all the time with the cocktail party
effect. What I'm talking about is exporting certain elements of the
mechanisms of the cocktail party effect, paying attention to the onset
and offset of words or particular notes within music or particular
scales, or you can make it even broader and particular motifs of music
or particular sentences of words or particular phrases. And in doing
that, you extract more of the information overall, even though you're
not paying attention to all the information at once.
Now, I'd like to talk about a phenomenon that you've all experienced
before, which is called Doppler. So the Doppler effect is the way that
we experience sound when the thing that's making that sound is moving.
The simplest way to explain this is to translate the sound into the
visual world once again. So if you've ever seen a duck or a goose
sitting in a pond or a lake and it's bobbing up and down, what you'll
notice is that the ripples of water that extend out from that duck or
goose are fairly regularly spaced in all directions. And that's
because that duck or goose is stationary. It's moving up and down, but
it's not moving forward or backward or to the side. Now, if that duck
or goose were to swim forward by paddling its little webbed feet under
the surface, you would immediately notice that the ripples of water
that are close to and in front of that duck or goose would be closer
together than the ones that trailed it, that were behind. And that is
essentially what happens with sound as well. With the Doppler effect,
we experience sounds that are closer to us at higher frequency, the
ripples are closer together, and sounds that are further away at lower
frequency, especially when they're moving past us. So if you've ever,
for instance, heard a siren in the distance, [humming] that's
essentially my rendition of a siren, I don't know what ambulance or
police or what, passing you on a street, that is the Doppler effect.
The Doppler effect is one of the main ways that we make out the
direction that things are arriving from and their speeds and
trajectories. And we get very good, from a very young age, at
discerning what direction things are arriving from and the direction
that they are going to pass us in. And the Doppler effect has probably
saved your life many, many times. In this way, you just don't realize
it because you'll step off the curb or you're driving your car and you
pull to the side so that the ambulance or firetruck can go by because
you heard that siren off in the distance, and then you pull away from
the curb and you get back on the road in part, because you don't see
it any longer, but also you don't hear any other sirens in the
distance. Now, some animals such as bats are exquisitely good at
navigating their environments according to sound. Now, we've all heard
that bats don't see. That's actually not true. They actually have
vision, but they just rely more heavily on their auditory system. And
the way that bats navigate in the dark and the way that bats navigate
using sound is through Doppler. Now, they don't simply listen to
whether or not things are coming at them or moving away from them and
pay attention to the Doppler like the siren example I gave for you.
What they do is they generate their own sounds. So a bat, as it flies
around is sending out clicks, [Andrew clicks tongue] I think that's my
best bat sound or maybe it's [Andrew clicks tongue] and they're
clicking, they're actually propelling sound out at a particular
frequency that they know. Now, whether or not they're conscious of it,
I don't know. I've never asked them. And if I did ask them, I don't
think they could answer. And if they could answer, they couldn't
answer in a language that I could understand. But the bat is
essentially flying around, sending out sound waves, pinging its
environment with sound waves of a particular frequency and then
depending on the frequency of sound waves that come back, they know if
they're getting closer to an object or further away from it. So if
they send out sounds at a frequency of, this was much slower than it
would actually occur, but let's say one every half second, [whining]
and it's coming back even faster [roars] then they know they're
getting closer because of the Doppler effect. And if it comes back
more slowly, they know that there's nothing in front of them. So the
bat is essentially navigating its world by creating these auras of
sound that bounce back on to them from the various objects, trees, et
cetera, buildings and people, it's kind of eerie to think about. But
yes, they see you, they experience you with their sound, they sense
you and they're using Doppler to accomplish it.
Now I'd like to talk about ringing in the ears. This is something that
I get asked about a lot. And speaking of signal-to-noise, I don't know
if I get asked about it a lot, because many people suffer from ringing
in their ears, or because the people who suffer from ringing in their
ears suffer so much that they are more prone to ask. So it could be a
sampling bias, I don't know, but I've been asked enough times and some
of the experiences of discomfort that people have expressed about
having this ringing of the ears really motivated me to go deep into
this literature. So the ringing of the ears that one experiences is
called tinnitus, not ti-nahy-tus, but tinnitus. And tinnitus can vary
in intensity and it can vary according to stress levels, it can vary
across the lifespan or even time of day. So it's very subject to
background effects and contextual effects. So I think we all know that
we should do our best to maximize healthy sleep. We did a number of
episodes on that. Essentially, the first four episodes of the Huberman
Lab Podcast were all about sleep and how to get better sleep. We all
know that we should try and limit our stress. And we had an episode
about stress and ways to mitigate stress as well. However, there are
people, it seems, that are suffering from tinnitus, for which stress
or lack of sleep just can't explain the presence of the tinnitus.
Tinnitus can be caused by disruption to these hair cells that we
talked about earlier or damage to the hair cells. So that's another
reason why, even if you have good hearing now that you want to protect
that hearing and really avoid putting yourself into these two-hit
environments, environments where there's a lot of background noise,
and then you add another really loud auditory stimulus. This also can
happen at different times, I should mention. If you go to a concert or
you listen to loud music with your headphones and then you go to a
concert, or you go into a very loud work environment, the hair cells
can still be vulnerable. And once those hair cells are knocked out,
currently, we don't have the technology to put them back. Although
many groups, including some excellent groups at Stanford and
elsewhere, too, of course, are working on ways to replenish those hair
cells and restore hearing. There are treatments for tinnitus that
involve taking certain substances. There are medications for tinnitus.
In the non-prescription landscape, which is typically what we discuss
on this podcast, when we discuss taking anything, there are,
essentially, four compounds for which there are quality peer-reviewed
data, where there does not appear to be any overt commercial bias,
meaning that nothing's reported in the papers as funding from a
particular company and those are melatonin, Ginkgo bilboa, zinc and
magnesium. Now I've talked about melatonin before. I'm personally not
a fan of melatonin as a sleep aid, but there are four studies, first
one entitled: The Effects of Melatonin on Tinnitus, tinnitus, excuse
me, and Sleep. Second one, Treatment of Central and Sensory Neural
Tinnitus with orally-administered melatonin. And then the title goes
on much longer, but it's a randomized study. I'm not going to read out
all these. Melatonin: Can it Stop The ringing? which is an interesting
article, double-blinded study, and The Effects of Melatonin on
Tinnitus. Each one of these studies has anywhere from 30 to more than
100 subjects, in one case 102 subjects; both genders as they list them
out, typically, it's listed as sex, not gender in studies so it should
say both sexes, but nonetheless; an age range anywhere from 30 years
old, all the way up to 65 plus. I didn't see any studies of people
younger than 30. All three focused on melatonin, not surprisingly,
because of the titles, looking at a range of dosages anywhere from
three milligrams per day, which is sort of typical of many supplements
for melatonin, still much higher than one would manufacture
endogenously through your own pineal gland, but three milligrams in
these studies for a duration of anywhere from 30 days to much longer
in some cases, six months. And all four of these studies found modest
yet still statistically significant effects of taking melatonin by
mouth, so it's orally-administered melatonin in reducing the severity
of tinnitus. So that's compelling, at least to me. It doesn't sound
like a cure. And, of course, as always, I'm not a physician, I'm a
scientist, so I don't prescribe anything. I only profess things, I
report to you the science. You have to decide if melatonin is right
for you if you have tinnitus. And certainly, I say that both to
protect myself, but also protect you. You're responsible for your
health and wellbeing. And I'm not telling anyone to run out and start
taking melatonin for tinnitus, but it does seem that it can have some
effects in reducing its symptoms. Ginkgo Boaboa is an interesting
compound. It's been prescribed for or recommended for many, many
things, but there are a few studies, again, double-blinded studies
lasting one to six months, one that has have an impressive number of
subjects, 978 subjects ranging from age 18 all the way up to 65 so on
and so forth that show not huge effects of Ginkgo, but as they quote,
limited evidence suggests that if tinnitus is a side effect of
something else, in particular, cognitive decline, so age-related
tinnitus might be helped by Ginkgo Boaboa. I won't go through all the
details of the zinc studies, but it seems that zinc supplementation at
higher levels than are typical of most people's intakes of 50
milligrams per day, do appear to be able to reduce subjective symptoms
of tinnitus in most of the people that took the supplemented zinc.
There aren't a lot of studies on that. So I could only find one
double-blinded study. It lasted anywhere from one to six months, 41
subjects, both genders listed out again here, 45 to 64, and they saw a
decrease in the severity of tinnitus symptoms with 50 milligrams of
elemental zinc supplementation. And then last but not least is the
magnesium study. Again, only a single study. It's a Phase II study
looking at a fairly limited number of subjects, so only 19 subjects
taking 532 milligrams of elemental magnesium. For those of you that
take magnesium, there's magnesium and elemental magnesium, and it's
always translated on the bottle, but it was associated with a
lessening of symptoms related to tinnitus. So for you tinnitus
sufferers out there, you may already be aware of this, you may already
be taking these things and had no positive effects, meaning they
didn't help, maybe not. I hope that you'll, at least, consider these,
talk to your doctor about them. I do realize that tinnitus is
extremely disruptive. I can't say I empathize because I don't, from a
place of experience, that is, because I don't have tinnitus, but for
those of you that don't include myself, you can imagine that hearing
sounds of things that aren't there and the ringing in one's ears can
be very disruptive and I think would be very disruptive and explains
why people with tinnitus reach out so often with questions about how
to alleviate that. And I hope this information was useful to you.
I'd like to now talk about balance and our sense of balance, which is
controlled by, believe it or not, our ears and things in our ears, as
well as by our brain and elements of our spinal cord. But before I do
that, I want to ask you another question or I would rather, I'd like
to ask you to ask yourself a question and answer it, which is how big
are your ears. It turns out that the ears grow our entire life. In the
early stage of our life, they grow more slowly. And then as we age,
they grow more quickly. You may have noticed if you have family
members who are well into their 70s and 80s, and if you're fortunate,
into their 90s and maybe even 100s, is that the ears of some of these
individuals get very, very big, relative to their previous ear sizes.
So it turns out that biological age can actually be measured according
to ear size. Now you have to take a few measurements but there's,
believe it or not, there is a formula in the scientific literature, if
you know your ear circumference, so the distance around your ear,
ears, plural, presumably you have two, most people do, in millimeters,
so you're going to take the circumference of your ears in millimeters.
How would you do this? How would you do this? Maybe you take a string
and you put it around your ear, and then you measure the string.
That's probably going to be easier than marching around your ear or
somebody else's ear with a ruler and measuring in millimeters. So
what's your ear circumference, on the outside, don't go in on the
divot or anything. You're just going around as if you're going to
trace the closest fitting oval, assuming your ears are oval, closest
fitting oval that matches your ear circumference. Take that number in
millimeters, subtract from it... Oh, excuse me, I should do this
correctly. Do that for both ears, add them together, add those numbers
together, divide by two, get the average for your two ears, get your
average ear circumference, of course, your two ears. Then take that
number in millimeters, subtract 88.1 and then whatever value that is,
multiply it times 1.96 and that will tell you your biological age. Now
why in the world would this be accurate? As we age, there are changes
in number of different biological pathways. One of those pathways is
the pathways related to collagen synthesis. So not only are our ears
growing, but our noses are growing too, and my nose seems to be
growing a lot. But then again, I did sports where I would get my nose
broken, something I don't recommend. As I always point out, you don't
get a nose like mine doing yoga, but nonetheless, my nose is still
growing and my ears are still growing. And I suspect as I get older,
if I have the good fortune of living into my 80s and 90s, my ears are
going to continue to grow. A comparison between chronological age and
biological age is something that's a really deep interest these days
in the work of David Sinclair at Harvard Medical School and others. So
called Horvath clocks that people have developed have tapped into how
the epigenome and the genome can give us some insight into our
biological age and how that compares to our chronological age. Most of
us know our chronological age, because we know when we were born and
we know where we are relative to that now. But you can start to make a
little chart, if you like, about your rates of ear growth. Your rates
of ear growth actually correlate pretty well with your rates of
biological progression through this thing that we call life. So it's
not something that we think about too often, but just like our DNA and
our epigenome, and some other markers of metabolic health and hormone
health relate to our age, so does our collagen synthesis. And one of
the places that shows up the most is in these two little goodies on
the sides of our heads, which are our ears. So even though it's a
little bit of a bizarre metric, it makes perfect sense in the
biological context. So let's talk about balance and how to get better
at balancing.
The reason why we're talking about balance and how to get better at
balancing in the episode about hearing is that all the goodies that
are going to allow you to do that are in your ears. They're also in
your brain, but they're mostly in your ears. So as you recall from the
beginning of this episode, you have two cochlea, cochleas, that are
one on each side of your head. And that's a little spiral snail-shaped
thing that converts sound waves into electrical signals that the rest
of your brain can understand. Right next to those, you have what are
called semicircular canals. The semicircular canals can be best
visualized as thinking about three hula hoops with marbles in them. So
imagine that you have a hula hoop and it's not filled with marbles all
the way around, it's just got some marbles down there at the base. So
if you were to move that hula hoop around, the marbles would move
around, [shushing]. You've got three of those and each one of those
hula hoops has these marbles that can move around. One of those hula
hoops is positioned vertically with respect to gravity. So it's
basically parallel to your nose. It sits like this, if you're watching
on a video, but basically it's upright. Another one of those hula
hoops is basically at a 90-degree angle to your nose. It's basically
parallel to the floor if you're standing up right now, if you're
seated. And the other one, it's kind of tilted about 45 degrees in
between those. Now why is the system there? Well, those marbles within
each one of those hula hoops can move around, but they'll only move
around if your head moves in a particular way, and there are three
planes or three ways that your head can move. Your head can move up
and down like I'm nodding right now. So that's called pitch, it's
pitching forward or pitching back. So it's a nod, up and down, or I
can shake my head no, side to side. That's called a yaw. You pilots
will be very familiar with this, yaw. Not yawn, yaw. And then there's
roll, tilting the head from side to side, the way that a cute puppy
might look at you from side to side or that if somebody doesn't really
understand or believe what you're saying, they might tilt their head,
very common phenomenon. I mean, nobody does that to me, but they do
that to each other. So pitch, yaw and roll are the movements of the
head in each of the three major planes of motion, as we say. And each
one of those causes those marbles to move in one or two of the various
hula hoops. So if I move my head up and down when I nod, one of those
hula hoops, literally, right now, the marbles are moving back and
forth. They aren't actually marbles by the way, these are little, kind
of like little stones, basically, little calcium-like deposits and
when they roll back and forth, they deflect little hairs, little hair
cells that aren't like the hair cells that we use for measuring sound
waves. They're not too different, but they are different from them,
not like the hairs on our heads, but they're basically rolling past
these little hair cells and causing them to deflect and when they
deflect downward, the neurons, because hair cells are neurons, send
information up to the brain. So if I move my head like this, there's a
physical movement of these little stones in this hula hoop as I'm
referring to it, but they deflect these hairs, send those hairs, which
are neurons, those hair cells, send information off to the brain. If I
move my head from side to side, different little stones move. If I
roll my head, different stones move. This is an exquisite system that
exists in all animals that have a jaw. So any fish that has a jaw has
this system, a puppy has the system, any animal that has a jaw has
this so-called balance system, which we call the vestibular system.
One of the more important things to know about the vestibular, the
balance system is that it works together with the visual system. Let's
say I hear something off to my left and I swing my head over to the
left to see what it is. There are two sources of information about
where my head is relative to my body and I need to know that. First of
all, when I quickly move my head to the side, those little stones, as
I'm referring to them, I realize they're not actually stones, but as
I'm referring to them, they quickly, whoom, activate those hair cells
in that one semicircular canal, and send a signal off to my brain that
my head just moved to the side like this, not that it went like this
and pitched back or not that it tilted, but it just moved to the side.
But also visual information slid past my field of view. I didn't have
to think about it, but just slid past my field of view. And when those
two signals combine, my eyes then lock to a particular location. Now,
if this is at all complicated, you can actually uncouple these things.
It's very easy to do. You can do this right now. In fact, I'd like you
to do this experiment if you're not already doing something else that
requires your attention. And certainly, don't do this if you're
driving. You're going to sit down and you're going to move your head
to the left very slowly with your eyes open.
So you're going to move it very, very slowly. The whole thing should
take about five, six, maybe even 10 seconds to complete. Okay, I just
did it. Now, I'm going to do it very quickly. I'd like you to do it
very quickly as well. Now do it slowly again. What you probably
noticed is that it's very uncomfortable to do it slowly, but you can
do it very quickly without much discomfort at all. You just move your
head to the side. The reason is when you move your head, very slowly,
those little stones at the base of that hula hoop, they don't get
enough momentum to move. So you're actually not generating this signal
to the brain that your head is moving. And what you'll notice is that
your eyes have to go, boom, boom, boom, jumping over step-by-step.
Whereas if you move your head really quickly, the signal gets off to
your brain and your eyes just go boom, right to the location you want
to look at. So moving your body slowly is actually very disruptive to
the vestibular system. And it's very disruptive to your visual system.
Now, if you've ever had the misfortune of being on a boat and you're
going through big oscillations on the boat, for those of you seasick,
folks that get seasick, this can actually make certain people seasick
just to hear about it, those big oscillations going up and down and up
and down. Those are very disruptive. We'll talk about nausea in a
minute and how to offset that kind of nausea. I get pretty seasick,
but there are ways that you can deal with this but this is incredible
because what it means is a purely physical system of these little
stones rolling around in there and directing where your eyes should
go. So you can do this also just by looking up. So let's just say,
you're sitting in a chair, you're going to look up towards the ceiling
and your eyes will just go there. You're doing this eyes open and you
look down. Now try doing it right really, really slowly. Some people
even get motion sick doing this, which if you do, then just stop.
Okay, so you can do this also to the side, although it works best if
you're moving your head from side to side and we're nodding up and
down. So what we're doing here is we're uncoupling these two
mechanisms, we're pulling them apart, the visual part and the
vestibular part, just to illustrate to you that, normally, these
mechanisms in your inner ear tell your eyes where to go, but as well,
your eyes tell your balance system, your vestibular system, how to
function.
So I'd like you to do a different experiment. I'm not going to do it
right now, but basically stand up. If you get the opportunity, you can
do this safely, wherever you are, you're going to stand up and you're
going to look forward about 10, 12 feet. Pick a point on a wall or you
can, anywhere that you like, if you're out in public, just do it
anyway. Just tell them you're listening to Huberman Lab Podcasts, and
someone's telling you to do it. Anyway, if you don't want to do it,
don't do it. But, basically, do it. Stand on one leg and lift up the
other leg. You can bend your knee, if you like and just look off into
the distance about 10, 12 feet. If you can do that, if you can stand
on one leg, now close your eyes, chances are you're going to suddenly
feel what scientists call postural sway. You're going to start swaying
around a lot. It is very hard to balance with your eyes closed. And if
you think about that, it's like, why is that? That's crazy. Why would
it be that it's hard to balance with your eyes closed? Well,
information about the visual world also feeds back onto this
vestibular system. So the vestibular system informs your vision and
tells you where to move your eyes and your eyes and their positioning
tell your balance system, your vestibular system how it should
function. So there's a really cool way that you can learn to optimize
balance. You're not going to try and do this by learning to balance
with your eyes closed. What you can do is you can raise one leg and
you can look at a short distance, maybe off to just the distance that
your thumb would be if you were to reach your arm out in front of you.
Although you don't necessarily have to put your thumb in front of you.
So maybe just about two feet in front of you. Then while still
balancing, you're going to step your vision out a further distance,
and then a further distance and as far as you can possibly see in the
environment that you're in. And then you're going to march it back to
you. Now, what the literature shows is that this kind of balance
training where you incorporate the visual system and extending out,
and then marching back in the point at which you direct your visual
focus, sends robust information about the relationship between your
visual world and your balance system. And, of course, the balance
system includes not just these hula hoops, these semicircular canals,
but they communicate with the cerebellum, the so-called mini-brain, it
actually means mini-brain in the back of your brain, combines that
with visual information and your map of the body surface. That pattern
of training is very beneficial for enhancing your ability to balance
because the ability to balance is, in part, the activation of
particular postural muscles, but just as much, perhaps even moreso,
it's about being able to adjust those postural muscles, excuse me,
it's about the ability to adjust those postural muscles as you
experience changes in your visual world. And one of the most robust
ways that you can engage changes in your visual world is through your
own movement. And so most people are not trying to balance in place,
right? They're not just trying to stand there like a statue on one
leg. Most of what we think about when we think about balance is for
sake of sport or dynamic balance of being able to break ourselves,
when we're lunging in one particular direction to stop ourselves, that
is, and then to move in another direction or for skateboarding or
surfing or cycling or any number of different things, gymnastics. So
the visual system is the primary input by which you develop balance,
but you can't do it just with the visual system. So what I'm
recommending is if you're interested in cultivating a sense of
balance, understand the relationship between the semicircular canals,
understand that they are both driving eye movements and they are
driven by eye movements. It's a reciprocal relationship. And then even
just two or three minutes a day, or every once in a while, even three
times a week, maybe five minutes, maybe 10 minutes, you pick, but if
you want to enhance balance, you have to combine changes in your
visual environment with a static posture, standing on one leg and
shifting your visual environment or static visual view, looking at one
thing and changing your body posture. So those two things, we now know
from the scientific literature, combine in order to give an enhanced
sense of balance. And there's a really nice paper that was published
in 2015 called Effects of Balance Training on Balance Performance.
This was in healthy adults. It's a systematic review and a meta
analysis. A meta analysis is when you combine a lot of literature from
a lot of different papers and extract the really robust and the less
robust statistical effects. So it's a really nice paper as well. There
are some papers out there, for instance, comparison of static balance
and the role of vision in the elite athletes. This is essentially the
paper that I've extracted most of the information that I just gave you
from. And that paper, and there are some others as well, but basically
I distilled them down into their core components. The core components
are move your vision around while staying static, still but in a
balanced position like standing on one leg, could be something more
complicated if you're somebody who can do more complicated movements.
Unilateral movement seemed to be important, so standing on one leg as
opposed to both, or trying to generate some tilt is another way to go
about it or imbalance, meaning one limb asymmetrically being activated
compared to the other limb. And then the other way to encourage or to
cultivate and build up this vestibular system and your sense of
balance actually involves movement itself, acceleration.
So that's what we're going to talk about now. So up until now, I've
been talking about balance only in the static sense, like standing on
one leg for instance, but that's a very artificial situation. Even
though you can train balance that way, most people who want to enhance
their sense of balance for sport or dance, or some other endeavor,
want to engage balance in a dynamic way, meaning moving through lots
of different planes of movement, maybe even sometimes while squatting
down low or jumping and landing or making trajectories that are
different angles. For that, we need to consider that the vestibular
system also cares about acceleration. So it cares about head position,
it cares about eye position and where the eyes are and where you're
looking, but it also cares about what direction you're moving and how
fast. And one of the best things that you can do to enhance your sense
of balance is to start to bring together your visual system, the
semicircular canals of the inner ear and what we call linear
acceleration. So if I move forward in space rigidly upright, it's a
vastly different situation than if I'm leaning to the side. One of the
best ways to cultivate a better sense of balance, literally, within
the sense organs and the neurons and the biology of the brain is to
get into modes where we are accelerating forward, typically, it's
forward while also tilted with respect to gravity. Now this would be
the carve on a skateboard or on a surf board or a snowboard. This
would be the taking a corner on a bike while being able to lean,
safely, of course, lean into the turn so that your head is actually
tilted with respect to the earth. So anytime that we are rigidly
upright, we aren't really exercising the vestibular system imbalance.
And this is why you see people in the gym on these, one of those
bouncy balls, Bocce balls are the one that the guys roll in the park.
Bouncy balls, where they're balancing back and forth, that will work
the small stabilizing muscles. But what I'm talking about is getting
into modes where you actually tilt the body and the head with respect
to earth. What I mean is with respect to Earth's gravitational pull.
Now the cerebellum is a very interesting structure because not only is
it involved in balance, but it's also involved in skill-learning and
in generating timing of movements. It's a fascinating structure
deserving of an entire episode or several episodes all on its own, but
some of the outputs of the cerebellum, meaning the neurons in the
cerebellum get inputs, but they also send information out. The outputs
of the cerebellum are strongly linked to areas of the brain that
release neuromodulators that make us feel really good, in particular,
serotonin and dopamine.
And this is an early emerging sub-field within neuroscience, but a lot
of what are called the non-motor outputs of the cerebellum have a
profound influence, not just on our ability to learn how to balance
better, but also how we feel overall. So for you exercisers out there,
I do hope people are getting regular healthy amounts of exercise.
We've talked about what that means in previous episodes, so at least
150 minutes a week of endurance work, some strength training, a
minimum five sets per body part to maintain musculature even if you
don't want to grow muscles, you want to do that in order to maintain
healthy, strengthened bones, et cetera. If you're doing that but
you're only doing things like curls in the gym, squats in the gym,
riding the Peloton, or even if you're outside running, and you're
getting forward acceleration, but you're never actually getting
tilted, you're never actually getting tilted with respect to Earth's
gravitational pull, you're not really exercising and getting the most
out of your nervous system. Activation of the cerebellum in this way
of being tilted or the head being tilted and the body being tilted
while in acceleration, typically forward acceleration, but sometimes
side to side has a profound and positive effect on our sense of mood
and wellbeing. And as I talked about in previous episode, it can also
enhance our ability to learn information in the period after
generating those tilts. And the acceleration. And that's because the
cerebellum has these outputs to these areas of the brain that release
these neuromodulators, like serotonin and dopamine. And they make us
feel really good. I think this is one of the reasons why, growing up,
I had some friends, some of whom might've been the world heavyweight
champions of laziness for essentially everything, except they would
wake up at 4:30 in the morning to go surf. They would drive, they
would get up so early to go surf. It's not just surfers and some
surfers, by the way, I should point out are not lazy humans. They do a
lot of other things. But I knew people that couldn't be motivated to
do anything, but they were highly driven to get into these experiences
of forward acceleration while tilted with respect to gravity,
likewise, with snowboarding or skiing or cycling. Those modes of
exercise seem to have an outsized effect both on our wellbeing and our
ability to translate the vestibular balance that we achieve in those
endeavors to our ability to balance while doing other things, and I
don't mean psychological balance necessarily. I mean physical balance.
So for those of you that don't think of yourselves as very coordinated
or with very good balance, getting into these modes of acceleration
forward movement or lateral movement while getting tilted, even if you
have to do it slowly, could be beneficial, I do believe, and the
scientific literature points to the fact that it will be beneficial
for cultivating better sense of physical balance. It can really build
up the circuits of this vestibular system. And then, of course, the
feel-good components of acceleration while tilted or while getting the
head into different orientations relative to gravity, well, that's the
explanation for roller-coasters. Some people hate roller-coasters.
They make them feel nauseous. Many people love roller-coasters and one
of the reasons they love roller-coasters is because of the way that
when you get the body, even if you're not generating the movement, you
get the body into forward acceleration and you're going upside down
and tilted to the side as the tracks go from side to side and tilt, et
cetera, you're getting activation of these deeper brain nuclei that
trigger the release of neuromodulators that just make us feel really,
really good. In fact, some people get a long arc, a long duration buzz
from having gone through those experiences. Some people who hate
roller-coasters are probably getting nauseous, just hearing about
that. So I encourage people to get into modes of acceleration while
tilted every once in a while, provided you can do it safely. It's an
immensely powerful way to build up your skills in the realm of
balance. And it's also, for most people, very, very pleasing. It feels
really good because of the chemical relationship between forward
acceleration and head tilt and body tilt. Now, speaking of feeling
nauseous, some people suffer from vertigo.
Some people feel dizzy, some people get lightheaded. An important
question to ask yourself, always, if you're feeling quote-unquote
dizzy or lightheaded, is are you dizzy or are you lightheaded? Now,
we're not going to diagnose anything here because there's just no way
we can do that. This is essentially me shouting into a tunnel. So we
don't know what's going on with each and every one of you but if ever
you feel that your world is spinning, but that you can focus on your
thumb, for instance, but the rest of the world is spinning and your
thumb is stationary, that's called being dizzy. Now, if you feel like
you're falling or that you feel like you need to get down onto the
ground because you feel light-headed, that's being light-headed. And,
oftentimes, with language we don't distinguish between being dizzy and
being lightheaded. Now there are a lot of ways that dizziness and
lightheadedness can occur. And I don't even want to begin to guess at
the number of different things and ways that it could happen for those
of you that suffer from it because it could be any number of them.
But, oftentimes, if people are lightheaded, yes, it could be low blood
sugar. It could also be that you're dehydrated. It could also be that
you are low in electrolytes. We talked about this in a previous
episode, but we will talk about it more in a future episode. Many
people have too little sodium in their system, salt, and that's why
they feel lightheaded. I have family members who, for years, thought
they had disrupted blood sugar. They would get shaky, jittery,
lightheaded, feel like they were nauseous, et cetera. And simply the
addition of little sea salt to their water remedied the problem
entirely. I don't think it's going to remedy every issue of
lightheadedness out there by any stretch, but just the addition of
salt, in this particular case, helped the person. And they are not
alone. Many people who think that they have low blood sugar, actually
are lightheaded because of low electrolytes and because of the way
that salt carries water into the system and creates changes in blood
volume, et cetera. Low sodium can often be a source of lightheadedness
as can low blood sugar and, of course, other things as well. Now for
dizziness or seasickness, we were all taught that you need to pick a
point on the horizon and focus on it.
But actually, that's not correct. It is true that if you are down in
the cabin of a boat or you're on the lower deck and all you can see
are things up close to you, that getting sloshed around, like so or
the boat going up and down, like so, I think I'm getting a little
seasick, even as I do this and I describe it, focusing on things close
to you can be problematic. And in that case, the advice to go up on
deck and get fresh air and to look off into the horizon, that part is
correct. But focusing your eyes on a particular location on the
horizon is effectively like trying to move very slowly as I had you do
before, where you're trying to move your head very slowly while
fixating on one location. Your eyes and your balance system were
designed to move together. So really, what you want to do is allow
your visual system to track with your vestibular system. This is why
sitting in the back of an Uber or a taxi and being on your phone can
make you suddenly feel very nauseous. Sometimes the cabs, particularly
in New York City, they have a lot of occluders, they have a lot of
stuff blocking your field of view. There's usually a little portal
where you can see out to the front of the front windshield, but
there's all this stuff now, televisions in the back seat and you're
watching that television and the cab is moving. You're in linear
acceleration, and sometimes you're taking corners, you're braking so
then your vestibular system has to adjust to that. If you're looking
at your phone or a book, or even if you're talking to somebody,
actually, I'm starting to feel a little nauseous just talking about
it. I promise I'm not going to finish this episode by vomiting at the
end, at least not here, but what can happen is that you're uncoupling
the visual information from your motion, from your vestibular
information. You want those to be coupled. This is why a lot of people
have to drive, they can't be in the passenger seat. Because when you
drive, you also get what's called proprioceptive feedback. Your body
is sending signals also to the vestibular system about where you are
in space. When you're the passenger, you're just getting jolted around
as the person is driving. And if you're looking at your phone, it's
even worse. And if you're looking at the occluder between you and the
two front seats, that's even worse. So this is why staring out the
front windshield is great but you don't want to fixate. So, hopefully,
I spared a few people and, hopefully, a few cab drivers of having
people get sick in their cars or Ubers. Let your visual system and
your vestibular system work together. If appropriate, get into linear
acceleration, and you'll improve your sense of balance. Once again,
we've covered a tremendous amount of information.
Now, you know how you hear, how you make sense of the sounds in your
environment, how those come into your ears and how your brain
processes them. In addition, we talked about things like low level
white noise and even binaural beats, which can be used to enhance
certain brain states, certain rhythms within the brain, and even
dopamine release in ways that allow you to learn better. And we talked
about the balance system and this incredible relationship between your
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responsible for balance and your visual system and gravity. And you
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